Comments on: gentoo-sources-2.6.23 feature changes

By: MatÃ„â€ºj Laitl (aka strohel)

MatÃ„â€ºj Laitl (aka strohel) — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:28:36 +0000

Exciting, Daniel.

On the speakup front, thanks for your efforts (plans) to maintain it, a friend of mine relies on it. I even tried to port it to 2.6.23, I failed (due to kernel console utf-8 conversion), but I’ll keep trying.

So I’m willing to test your patches / help out (if I am able to – I’m a junior C programmer), you may contact me on strohel (a.t) gmail (dott) com, if you want.

By: nightmorph

nightmorph — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:20:56 +0000

Daniel, it’s entirely possible. I’m on interesting pain medication at the moment. Right now I’m more lucid. My comment doesn’t make much sense to me, except the bit about the required installation/compilation steps for uvesafb and v86d as given in spock’s uvesafb homepage. Will users still have to perform about 10 steps to make them work? That’s my chief concern; that users will face additional hassle when working with their kernels. I was expressing my worry that the old easy way of doing kernels is gone, as outlined in the following scenario:

old way:
make menuconfig
make && make modules_install && make install (. . .etc.)

worrisome new way:
make menuconfig
make
emerge klibc
emerge v86d
make menuconfig
make && make modules_install && make install (. . . etc.)

We’ll take this to email if we have to; I don’t think I’ll be able to handle IRC yet. The less time I spend looking at computer screens, the less it hurts. :(

By: Daniel Drake

Daniel Drake — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:07:10 +0000

nightmorph, I think you’ve misunderstood uvesafb. At least, your comment doesn’t make much sense. find me on irc and I’ll clarify…

By: Steve Dibb

Steve Dibb — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:47:05 +0000

Very nice, thanks man. the ACPI laptop changes look cool, I know a few people that’s going to help out.

By: nightmorph

nightmorph — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 23:30:48 +0000

Um. How soon will v86d be stabilized? At the same time that gentoo-sources-2.6.23 is stabilized? Any ETA on when that will be?

While this news is certainly exciting (now my kernel source isn’t the only one that provides uvesafb!), I’m just now realizing it’s going to mean fairly extensive documentation changes.

Also, if Spock’s directions for running uvesafb will still be required, compiling a kernel will still be really stupidly hackish, and really, just completely unacceptable. We need our users to do what they do right now with gentoo-sources, which is just make menuconfig && make modules_install etc. Anything more complicated, like multiple configure/make cycles, emerging v86d and klibc . . . yeah. No? Please no. Also, dear LORD what will this do to all the poor folks that have to recompile kernels regularly for external drivers. Methinks module-rebuild won’t be enough?

Finally, I assume non-x86/amd64 users of gentoo-sources won’t have any problems with the kernel and using whatever framebuffer it is they use.